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Parallella Community Supercomputing for Everyone 2016-03-14T13:03:40+00:00 https://parallella.org/forums/feed.php?f=13&t=1101 2016-03-14T13:03:40+00:00 2016-03-14T13:03:40+00:00 https://parallella.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1101&p=17120#p17120 <![CDATA[Re: Using More Memory]]> Statistics: Posted by sebraa — Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:03 pm


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2016-03-12T03:45:30+00:00 2016-03-12T03:45:30+00:00 https://parallella.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1101&p=17086#p17086 <![CDATA[Re: Using More Memory]]> Statistics: Posted by donald122 — Sat Mar 12, 2016 3:45 am


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2014-04-14T11:07:03+00:00 2014-04-14T11:07:03+00:00 https://parallella.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1101&p=6948#p6948 <![CDATA[Re: Using More Memory]]>
It's a truism that if an application dataset is larger or differently organised than the limits/constraints of the Parallella architecure then that application will need to work around/within the constraints, such as the 8KB segmentation mentioned.
It's probably a only small subset of applications/developers that really need to access large contiguous datasets in the current Parallella's global memory - so not a big issue.
For those who do need it, perhaps it would be best to just document how to adjust the size and location of the global memory more flexibly/easilly - especially for a E64 build, say, -rather than have it fixed at 32MB. { ... like one of shodruck's Ubunu tips maybe?}

But having access to a large global memory and then actually using it is not straightforward.
The performance hit of accessing the off-chip memory is itself a major constraint - and many developers will have to take this into account even for basic applications.
There's a good analysis/advice by @tnt on the performance impact of reading data/running code from the external global memory on one of the early boards.

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Basically - don't. Unless you must. :(

tery

Statistics: Posted by greytery — Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:07 am


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2014-04-13T16:31:06+00:00 2014-04-13T16:31:06+00:00 https://parallella.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1101&p=6946#p6946 <![CDATA[Re: Using More Memory]]> It is even possible to implement virtual memory in software.
In any case, with Epiphany, we have to manage data segmented into 8KB or so. ;)

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2014-04-13T13:38:22+00:00 2014-04-13T13:38:22+00:00 https://parallella.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1101&p=6944#p6944 <![CDATA[Re: Using More Memory]]>
Question for all: How big of an issue is it to not support large contiguous areas of physical memory for software developers? Our assumption was that that this could be hidden from most users.

Andreas

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2014-04-13T12:42:31+00:00 2014-04-13T12:42:31+00:00 https://parallella.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1101&p=6943#p6943 <![CDATA[Re: Using More Memory]]> With the default configuration of Parallella,
the Core-ID of Epiphany is set to (32-35, 8-11),
so the Epiphany can only access its east address (0-63, 12-63).

e.g.
0x00c00000 - 0x03ffffff
0x04c00000 - 0x07ffffff
0x08c00000 - 0x0bffffff
...
0xfcc00000 - 0xffffffff

So we can get up to 52MB contiguous memory space. (with E16 Parallella)

Note: This is only my understanding...

Statistics: Posted by shodruk — Sun Apr 13, 2014 12:42 pm


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2014-04-13T08:52:08+00:00 2014-04-13T08:52:08+00:00 https://parallella.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1101&p=6939#p6939 <![CDATA[Re: Using More Memory]]>
@timpart - that's a very polite RTFM. Thankyou.
Got a bit carried away there.
Ho Hum, back to the manual until I get the real thing to play with.
tery

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2014-04-12T23:52:32+00:00 2014-04-12T23:52:32+00:00 https://parallella.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1101&p=6938#p6938 <![CDATA[Re: Using More Memory]]> Statistics: Posted by notzed — Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:52 pm


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2014-04-12T21:28:42+00:00 2014-04-12T21:28:42+00:00 https://parallella.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1101&p=6936#p6936 <![CDATA[Re: Using More Memory]]> Statistics: Posted by timpart — Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:28 pm


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2014-04-12T17:15:55+00:00 2014-04-12T17:15:55+00:00 https://parallella.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1101&p=6933#p6933 <![CDATA[Re: Using More Memory]]> Statistics: Posted by greytery — Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:15 pm


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2014-04-10T22:37:38+00:00 2014-04-10T22:37:38+00:00 https://parallella.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1101&p=6913#p6913 <![CDATA[Re: Using More Memory]]> Statistics: Posted by ysapir — Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:37 pm


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2014-04-09T12:00:51+00:00 2014-04-09T12:00:51+00:00 https://parallella.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1101&p=6905#p6905 <![CDATA[Using More Memory]]> Statistics: Posted by eoghanoh — Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:00 pm


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